Chasing the Beast

Kevin Love looked good yesterday, but staying put at # 5 still feels like it should be a back-up plan for the Grizzlies.

Plan A?

The suggestion continues that Miami could move the #2 pick – moving up, down, or out of the draft. Chad Ford discusses that here and here.

The first piece gives the following take on the Grizzlies situation:

Quote:
On the Grizzlies:
The team is rebuilding and is at a good spot at No. 5. But they also have assets that could net them a higher lottery pick.

If they were to offer Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry for the No. 2 pick, would the Heat bite? Maybe, if the Grizzlies were willing to take back Mark Blount or a combo of Marcus Banks and Udonis Haslem in return to make the numbers work.

The Commercial Appeal’s Geoff Calkins calls for a Michael Beasley bid in his column today.

A post on RealGM.com yesterday, citing The Miami Herald, touched on this with the following:

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While the Heat aren't discouraging trade offers for the second overall pick in this month's NBA draft, deals are unlikely with the Wolves or Sonics, according to The Miami Herald.

Aside from Al Jefferson (Minnesota) and Kevin Durant and Jeff Green (Seattle), neither of the teams have pieces that are attractive to Pat Riley and Miami.

"Memphis at No. 5 would be the best trade fit," a rival executive said, although O.J. Mayo, the team's projected target, might be gone.

So, let’s back-up and analyze the situation a little bit. Based on a combination of multiple media reports and informed conjecture, all of these things seem to be true:

1. Assuming Derrick Rose goes #1 to Chicago, Miami isn’t sold on Michael Beasley as their pick. They appear to be more interested in O.J. Mayo but would prefer to trade down to get him since Beasley is the consensus #2 pick.

2. Minnesota, at #3, and Seattle, at #4, don’t have the kind of tradable secondary assets Miami would covet in a deal to move down.

3. Memphis does have assets Miami likes and also has interest in moving up for Beasley, but Miami can’t deal with Memphis and be assured of getting Mayo with Minnesota and Seattle in the way.

4. Minnesota would probably take Beasley or Mayo at #3 based on value, but neither are perfect fits with the current roster (Mayo duplicates scoring combo/small guards Randy Foye and Rashad McCants; Beasley duplicates go-to post scorer Al Jefferson). Minnesota likes Brook Lopez, Kevin Love, and Danilo Gallinari and, like Miami, might be interested in trading down to take their guy.

If all those things are true, then one semi-complicated scenario seems to be the obvious solution to the needs and desires of the Heat, Wolves, and Grizzlies: A three-team deal involving all three lottery picks.

Miami would take Beasley at #2 for Memphis. Minnesota would secure Mayo at #3 for Miami. Memphis would take whomever the Timberwolves want at #5 to send to Minnesota. Both Miami and Minnesota would need added value for moving down and the Grizzlies would have to part with some extra value for moving up. The complication is that the Grizzlies would have to send assets to both teams. How much is too much for Beasley?

Miami would only be moving down one spot for a player they’d probably draft at #2 if need be, so the ransom might not be too high. Minnesota would be moving down two spots and into what is perceived to be a lower tier of prospects, so they might require more sweetener.

What would these teams most want? Would Miami want Kyle Lowry even after adding Mayo? Would they want Mike Miller to add a veteran shooter to play off their duo of penetrating guards? They would probably want the Grizzlies to take back a bad contract either way. I’m guessing the #28 pick alone wouldn’t be enough even to move back one spot.

What about Minnesota? It might depend on whom they’re taking at #5, though I doubt the rebuilding Wolves would insist on Miller. Would they want Lowry to add a true point guard to their backcourt rotation? If they were going for Lopez or Gallinari, would Hakim Warrick make some sense? Would moving up from the low 30s to #28 in the middle of the draft be considered good value?

Would either team be interested in the rights to Marc Gasol? Is Javaris Crittenton a factor? (Doubtful) Could you hold a deal this complicated up a week to include Juan Carlos Navarro in a sign-and-trade (presumably to Miami)?

There are probably a hundred scenarios to spin around the basic premise of the three-team pick swap. Here are a couple:

Scenario 1:
Griz send Navarro to Heat in sign-and-trade for Marcus Banks (3 years and $13 million left)
Griz send Kyle Lowry OR Hakim Warrick and #28 to Minnesota for Mark Madsen (2 years and $5.5 million remaining), #31, and #34 (Minnesota is said to be interested in packaging both second-rounders for a late first-rounder because of roster space concerns.)

Or, if Navarro is too complicated and the Heat insist on getting back Mike Miller:
Scenario 2:
Griz send Miller to Heat for Banks and Daequan Cook

In these scenarios, the Grizzlies would end up with a fair amount of dead-weight contract on the books (Banks and Madsen added to Brian Cardinal and Jason Collins), but none of the contracts are huge and all run out (or become expiring contract trade chips) over the next three seasons while the high-upside core (Beasley, Rudy Gay, Mike Conley) would all be on rookie contracts.

Another factor to consider is the Grizzlies cap space: That would enable the team to take on a bad contract as sweetener without parting with comparable salary. One scenario could be taking back a more onerous contract from Minnesota (Greg Buckner: 3 years and $12 million left) without giving up a Lowry or Warrick. Or even sending Cardinal (1 mid-level year left) and taking back Marko Jaric (3 mid-level years left).

With the team unlikely to be able to sign major free agents (mid-level signings such as Marc Gasol or Mickeal Pietrus are more likely), one potential use of a portion of the cap space should be to facilitate trades for other assets, such as draft picks from teams wanting to shed a bad (but not too bad) contract to avoid luxury tax or free up a roster spot. This is applicable to a number of scenarios, not just the three-team deal I’m discussing here.

If the window is open at all to trading up for Beasley — and it seems to be — then the Grizzlies should make an aggressive move.

Submitted by Chris Herrington on Tue, 06/10/2008 - 7:15pm.
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I've come to the conclusion that Riley's preoccupation of Mayo is nothing but a smokescreen. Why? Because Mayo and Wade are too similar and Mayo is not a true point guard first player and never will be. Riley is trying to throw MN off. He really wants Rose (not gonna happen) or a C/PF and a PG. Read: Kevin Love or Lopez and a good PG for Beasley. Riley is wanting MN to pick Mayo at #3 so that Love/Lopez will be available at #5 to the Griz. Then he could trade down and get either Love/Lopez and a Griz PG (Conley maybe?) for Beasley. Mayo is NOT the real player the Heat want.
Think about it: Mayo and Wade are almost identical players. Will Wallace deal? Surely, Wallace is thinking about just this scenerio. If MN sees Riley's ruse and picks Love instead and leaves Mayo at #5 then the Griz would make Miami's pick and pick Lopez and deal him with Conley for Beasley. Mayo will probably end up in NY.

grizfan8 (not verified) | Fri, 06/13/2008 - 10:37pm

Why doesn't it surprise me that in all of these proposed deals, they somehow look good for Miami and Memphis, and the Wolves get screwed? I'm assuming this is because everyone is used to McHale making stupid deals, so why not get a piece of the action?

Honestly, why would any of these deals make sense for the Wolves? Why would we want to trade out of a valuable spot (B. Lopez, Mayo) AND give up a valuable expiring contract in A. Walker just to pick up other bad contracts (Cardinal), other team's marginal role players, and move down two spots?

While finally getting rid of Jaric's contract would be a nice incentive, I don't see much value in any of these suggestions. We may as well trade way down in the draft so that someone can grab either Beasley or Mayo and get something that is actually useful.

And why would we trade an explosive scorer in his rookie contract (McCants) in any scenario or even consider taking Marcus Banks back (we already dodged that bullet once!) Come on, I'm not a McHale fan either, but realize there are people babysitting him now!

WolvesFan (not verified) | Wed, 06/11/2008 - 4:16pm

Here you go:

To the Heat:

* Mike Miller
* 3rd pick (OJ Mayo)
* 28th pick

To the Grizz:

* 2nd pick (Michael Beasley)
* Antoine Walker (expiring contract)
* Mark Blount (2 years left)
* 2nd round picks

To the Wolves:

* 5th pick (Kevin Love)
* Jason Collins
* Hakim Warrick
* Rights to Marc Gasol (with guarantee for him coming over for a MLE)
* No trade restrictions on the pick owed by the Heat

I think that's about the best possible deal for all teams involved. I'm pretty happy with this one. The Wolves trade one expiring contract for another while moving down and grabbing 3 decent frontcourt players (Warrick, Gasol, and Love); the Grizz take on a bad contract in Blount, but it's only for 2 years and they get the most talented player in the draft along with 2 high 2nd rounders; and the Heat get their guy in Mayo along with a solid perimeter player in Miller.

stopnpop (not verified) | Wed, 06/11/2008 - 12:19pm

We've been looking at the same sort of 3 way deal over at Canis Hoopus:

To the Grizz:

* Antoine Walker
* Mark Blount
* 2nd pick (Michael Beasley)

To the Heat:

* Mike Miller
* Marko Jaric
* 3rd pick (OJ Mayo)

To the Wolves:

* Brian Cardinal
* Darko Milicic
* Marcus Banks
* 5th and 28th pick

Another option is this:

To the Grizz:
- Michael Beasley (2nd pick)
- Toine
- Mark Blount

To the Heat:
- Mike Miller
- 28th pick
- OJ Mayo (3rd pick)

To the Wolves:
- Jason Collins
- Hakim Warrick
- No trade restrictions on picked owed by Miami
- Kevin Love (5th pick)

The last trade could be modified by switching Collins with Darko and moving Rashad McCants to Memphis. It could also be enhanced by a Marc Gasol sign and trade in place of Collins. In fact, I'd say the Wolves would want to walk away with Gasol or Darko in this deal as they badly need a big center.

I think a 3 way trade makes sense for all 3 parties involved if the Wolves decide they don't want Beasley. If Miami wants Mayo, Minny holds all the chips and Miami will have to deal with the Wolves because it's rumored that the Clips and Knicks are interested as well and the Wolves could simply draft Mayo if Miami went with Beasley.

Anyway, it makes sense for a deal like this to go through.

stopnpop (not verified) | Wed, 06/11/2008 - 12:00pm

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